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Post by Sarah Hrejsa on May 5, 2009 20:34:19 GMT -5
Hey guys - I'm heeeerrrreeee. *feels much love from the jury house* *hugs Will* Yes yes I know you think I'm stupid...and I did make an emotional decision instead of a strategic one at the end. I need a drink and then later I'll tell you all about the trainwreck that is Sarah...
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Post by Chi Chi Song on May 5, 2009 20:40:40 GMT -5
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Post by Sarah Hrejsa on May 5, 2009 21:49:07 GMT -5
Oh, P.S. Here is the message Sarah sent me right before she voted me out: Yeah, well I am just glad we split up Nathan/Sheila. I am working on my "speech" ugh but will post it by the deadline. I'm obviously not going to say on the board that I am loyal to you but I am - and I trust you, too. Soooo congrats on F3!  Don't screw me over. :-P Ya know... vote me out - whatever. But at least have the balls to tell me straight up. There's no reason to lie like she did. Will, I did send you that and when I sent it I meant it. As I told you after when I sent this: I'm so sorry - I literally changed at the last minute. I just couldn't do it to Nathan, who's been loyal to me and been helping me the whole game. I promised him first. And I know that you probably hate me - but I had to do what I thought was right. I'm just sorry I couldn't talk to you first. I had it all written out and had to change it at the last minute. That wasn't a lie. I started talking to Nathan at 7:30 - because I felt I owed it to him to tell him before I voted him out. I had the speech all written out, which is posted in my diary room. I was going to copy and paste it after I told Nathan...and then I just totally made an emotional decision. Yes, you can all call me stupid, dumb, whatever. Did it cost me the game? Probably. But in the end I just couldn't evict Nathan, who I had been close to the whole game, and who I really felt deserved to be in the final 3 - or even final 2 - over you. I like you a lot. We trusted each other in Gabon but in this game we barely talked, you weren't that much of a presence, and idk I just couldn't backstab Nathan again.. Did Nathan guilt trip me in the end? Yeah, probably. But ultimately I think I wanted him to talk me out of it. And he was very happy to. I really wanted to win this final HOH and I would have taken Nathan to the end with me. I also knew Sheila was going to take him if she won. I guess it came down to the fact that if I couldn't win I wanted someone who deserved it to win. |
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Post by Sarah Hrejsa on May 5, 2009 22:08:58 GMT -5
Idk, I have a feeling that there is a lot of "personal" stuff going on between Sarah, Sheila and Nathan. I don't think any of those 3 can say they have been basing their decisions solely on this game. Both Nathan and Sarah have turned on their allies made in this game in favour of their "friendships" outside the game. -Sarah made a deal with Sheila and Nathan then tried to get Sheila evicted by kidnapping her because that's what Howie wanted. - Sarah made a deal with me then evicted Eric who she knew I was close to, in favour of Natalie. Again, because Howie wanted to? - Sarah made a deal with Will and broke it because she is friends with Nathan. - Nathan made a deal with both Eric and I and then broke it in favour of Sheila and Sarah because he knows them from TIB. Idk, maybe I am being sensitive here but I feel like both Nathan and Sarah played this game based on outside friendships and not solely on the context of this game. Parker <33333 I missed you so much! *hugs Parker* I know you feel that I played this game based on outside friendships but that is only partially true. I didn't know Nathan before this game - just like I didn't know you. I came into this game with Howie - he was my final two and I would have been loyal to that since I made that promise - no matter how much our game styles ended up conflicting, lol. We fought about the game a few times but I ultimately ended up doing what he wanted and ignoring my gut. That was a huge mistake... After Howie was voted out and I was saved by you and Jun <3333 I was completely loyal to you. You became my number one in the game - even though I knew you were loyal to Jun before me. I adored talking to you and I really wanted to see you at the end. I also felt very grateful to what Jun did for me. She saved my ass and I wanted to pay her back for that. Especially after Seb and Sheila cheated and tainted the game.  But, at the same time I needed to protect myself from Sheila and Nathan. In order to do that I had to stay close to them both. It sounds like I was fake but I wasn't. I was truly sorry for backstabbing them and I genuinely like them both. I was kind of playing the middle ground because I knew they wanted you two out and you two wanted them out. I had no problem being on board with getting Seb out, though, lol. In that process I became closer to Nathan....and I really tried to make things up to Sheila. I suggested a secret alliance to her - half-jokingly but she said she was open to it. After you left the game the person I was closest to was Nathan. I ended up promising him I would never vote him out. Haha, I was a little drunk and he never reciprocated, which was what I was going to use to justify my voting him out in the end over Will, who I was always a little suspicious of, but did believe was on my side in the end. So, yeah, I know it looks like pre-alliances and there were some...but the fact that I kept Nathan had nothing to do with TIB. It just came down to loyalties for me. But I would have done the same for you if I had that scenario in front of me. Like if it were you and Jun with me at the end and I knew you would keep Jun over me at the end, I would have still kept you. |
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Post by Will Wikle on May 6, 2009 12:07:02 GMT -5
Sarah, I love you. But I couldn't be happier to see you here. You have no one to blame but yourself, my dear.
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Post by Sarah Hrejsa on May 6, 2009 12:37:30 GMT -5
Did I blame anyone else? I think I made myself clear. If I had been working with you as closely as I had with Nathan this whole game, I think you would have expected me to keep you at that point, as well. You guys all act like I did a horrible thing. I don't see being loyal and keeping a promise as a bad thing. Did I give up a chance to win a game? Yeah, probably....but I am fine with how I played. Sorry you guys didn't get Nathan/Sheila split up like you wanted. I guess you should have done it yourselves if you wanted it done that badly.
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Post by Will Wikle on May 6, 2009 13:09:46 GMT -5
Did I give up a chance to win a game? Yeah, probably.... No, not “probably”. You “definitely” did. Welcome to the jury lodge – this is where losers hang out. Sorry you guys didn't get Nathan/Sheila split up like you wanted. I guess you should have done it yourselves if you wanted it done that badly. Well, I sure as hell can’t argue with that. But I'm much happier knowing that I tried and I failed, instead of having the perfect opportunity to win the game, and throwing it away for the chance to be loyal to someone who wasn't going to be loyal to you. |
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Post by Sarah Hrejsa on May 6, 2009 13:29:37 GMT -5
Well, Will...you're right about me making promises to you and not keeping them. I definitely had more than one alliance and those were bound to conflict at some point - and they did. As far as whether Nathan would have been loyal to me - you really don't know the answer to that. He may not have been, but you really weren't there and you have no idea what we talked about and what he would have done...do I think he would have taken me? Mmmmm I think there is a high probability he wouldn't have. But, I already said I made an emotional decision based on where I felt comfortable and with the promises I felt I should be keeping.
I can understand you being upset that I didn't keep you. I can understand that you feel I made a dumb move. I don't understand why the bitterness toward me that you got 4th instead of third - because that's what you would have gotten.
You can sit here and criticize my game all you want, but your game consisted of begging Sheila to get you to F4 - you were going to be happy with that. IDK Will, you are all high and mighty but you never won anything and you were basically just carried. If Nathan and I didn't both evict Natalie, Sheila would have kept him in a tie situation...and that almost happened. I am not saying it to be mean but I just think you're bitter - and I think you got farther in the game than you should have. I might be underachieved getting 3rd instead of 1st or 2nd but that's something I can live with. I don't know why you care, really.
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Post by Will Wikle on May 6, 2009 14:18:26 GMT -5
Yeah, you're right. I'm probably bitter. I considered you a friend (and still do). And I try my best to separate personal moves from game moves, but I am still having a hard time understanding your choice to evict me. If you had betrayed me because it was in your best interest, I’d be fine with that. I’d applaud you, in fact. But you evicted me and made a foolish mistake at the same time.
And please don’t sit here and say that I didn't do anything in this game. I might not have won any challenges, but I was strategizing and scheming the entire time. I realized I wasn’t going to win challenges, so I played up the fact that I was kind of dumb and a follower, because I knew it was the best card for me to play if I wanted to advance. You know me from other games, and I think you know that I’m neither dumb, nor a follower. I honestly think I played a pretty damn good strategic game. My only mistake was trusting you. Especially when I let you convince me to give up on the last veto so one of us could submit before Nathan, therefore ensuring that he would leave. Trusting you on that level was definitely my biggest mistake I made in the entire game.
And yes, no one can say whether Nathan would have taken you or Sheila to the finals had he won. But I think he betrayed you by throwing the final challenge and letting you take the fall. He got himself into a position where two people were basically drooling over the idea of taking him to the end. How he managed to do that is an impressive feat, especially considering that he was probably the biggest jury threat amongst the final 5.
But, I do think you’re wrong about one thing. If you had evicted Nathan instead of me, I feel pretty certain that Sheila would have taken me to final 2. And I actually think I would have had a good shot at winning. You may not have seen it, but I would have definitely been able to convey my strategy in an articulate manner, and I think there are a few jury members who would have been on my side. It’s impossible to say if I would have won, but I definitely think I’d have had a shot. So, on second thought, maybe evicting me wasn’t as stupid a decision as I originally thought. You were destined for 3rd place no matter what decision you made.
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Post by Sarah Hrejsa on May 6, 2009 14:26:43 GMT -5
I consider you a friend, too. And I don't want to continue arguing over this but I will tell you that I 100% believe if I took you that Sheila would have evicted you over me at the end. I know him pretty well and I know he wouldn't have wanted you to get to the F2. We actually talked about it the night before final HOH. I tried to get him to make a deal and he was honest enough not to, but he did say he would have taken me over you - and I did know this. That's how he works.
As far as that veto - yeah, it was crappy of me to convince you to submit. I just wanted to be the one to make the decision on who to evict. At that point I still wasn't even sure. I went back and forth so many times. Seriously, I even asked my roommate who doesn't play orgs. She said to evict Nathan lol.
I do know that you are a good, smart player. I didn't mean to insult you by saying you did nothing in the game - I guess I just didn't see it. I know you are capable, though.
but anyway, it is was it is.
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Post by Will Wikle on May 6, 2009 14:42:21 GMT -5
Yeah, I don't want to keep arguing over this either. It's over. We're both losers now. Oh, and when I said I thought Sheila would have taken me to the end, I have no grounds for that. It sounds like you know more about it than I do. I was just assuming that Sheila would take the person she had a better chance of beating. I don't think there's a chance in hell that Sheila would beat you in a jury vote, whereas against me, she had a fighting chance. |
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Post by Sarah Hrejsa on May 6, 2009 14:46:54 GMT -5
I would have evicted you over Sheila at F3 - would you have voted for me then?
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Post by Will Wikle on May 6, 2009 15:09:27 GMT -5
Yes, absolutely.
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Post by Sarah Hrejsa on May 6, 2009 15:13:18 GMT -5
LOL thanks.
Soooo all I ask if that nobody asks Nathan about how much he played me at the end to get him to keep me...that is MINE. lol
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Post by Natalie Cunial on May 6, 2009 17:03:52 GMT -5
I almost like died of all this drama. That is my kinda thing to do.  But anyways, Sarah since you're spilling your feelings and you too Will, what do you guys think about slutty Natalie? |
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Don't screw me over. :-P 
